07.06.06
Horcrux and Title Guesses
I know that most of us here are dying to read book 7 of Harry Potter.But I was thinking about what could be the other horcruxes and I came up with one-Harry.It does sound a little oddd, but I was thinking that it might somehow connect with the title! What do you think? Is Harry a horcrux?What is the title and Why?
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RavenclawWit said,
July 7, 2006 at 5:35 am
harrypotter_lover35, This has been discussed ad nauseam at these previous posts: Harry Potter: Horcrux and My Take On The Horcrux Theory. You may want to check them out. Of course you’re welcome to restart the discussion here if you’ve anything to add. I personally feel that either Harry or his scar is a horcrux. As for the title? Harry Potter and the Last Horcrux?
Renee said,
July 7, 2006 at 8:40 am
I personally think that this is true. It would be a twist if at the end the last horcrux. Just think, at the end, harry distroys the second last horcrux, and all of as sudden, harry gets voldemort pocessing him or something. this would also tie in with the idea of Harry having to die. And if you look at the prophecy, ‘neither can live while the ther survives’, i think that there is more to what this is saying.
rowlingfan13 said,
July 7, 2006 at 11:12 am
That is a really good thought. And a very good possibilty. I could see Harry being a Horcrux, but at the same time Voldemort has tried to destroy him in the past. Would he tempt destroying one of his own horcruxes??
Charlotte said,
July 7, 2006 at 12:59 pm
It’d be a pretty good ending if Harry himself was a horcrux. I mean, that’d wrap up the stonyline pretty well. Suppose on the night Voldemort tried to kill Harry when he was baby not gave Harry only some of his powers, but also a part of his soul. Which could mean, in order to stop Voldemort once and for all, Harry has to be noble for the last time and kill himself, which would put an end to Voldemort, but also him… Could this be what JKR means when she says she might finish off Harry in the 7th book?
Mark said,
July 7, 2006 at 1:33 pm
i see everyone’s point, but why would voldemort make harry a horcrux when the horcrux is a part of him? i mean, if voldemort destroys harry (which he won’t) he would also be destroying a part of himself. i just dont see it.
i think that the other horcrux’s are hufflepuffs ornament, because Voldemort did make a special appointment to see it, possibly ravenclaws item an something in dumbledore’s office. i can’t remember what book it is, but Dumbledore shows harry a memory of voldemort coming to hogwarts asking for the Defence against the dark Arts job. as voldemort was leaving the room in bad taste after being refused, he flicked his wrist towards something in dumbledore’s office. could he have created a horcrux then? im not sure
as far as the title goes, it could be along the lines of something like ravenclawwit said, “harry potter and the last horcrux”, or harry potter and the final battle” or something like that
i would love to hear other opinions.
harrypotter_lover35 said,
July 7, 2006 at 5:56 pm
Thanks, for all of your comments.!
hpfan#1 said,
July 10, 2006 at 6:33 am
Well, that pretty much makes sense….but…i dont know…the possibility is rather crude seeing that harry is an individual who can think hmself isnt that what dumbledore said about nagini?
and harry isnt dumb either.if he is a horcrux and figures it out…well…..voldemort must have known that harry would kill himself t be noble, right?
And whos RAB? Regulus Black?’Cause when Sirius and co are cleaning the house of black in book 5 there was a “heavy locket which noone could open”?????????
See??
harrypotter_lover35,i want to hear an explanation.
Travis Prinzi said,
July 10, 2006 at 8:15 am
The question of Harry as Horcrux is huge. It’s generated 275 comments in one thread a bunch more in another. I lean towards Harry’s scar being a horcrux. I think it makes the most sense of everything he has experienced with this scar, the “part of Voldemort” that was put in him when he was attacked with the AK curse (CoS), and the set-up for a living horcrux with the Nagini discussion (HBP-23).
harrypotter_lover35 said,
July 10, 2006 at 4:30 pm
hpfan#1, I have forgotten all about Nagini…who could be posessed by Voldemort.But you wanted a theory and here it is; Harry may be a horcrux, without even Voldemort knowing, because Voldemort gave Harry some of his powers, if you recall in the COS movie, Dumbledore had stated that. ex. parseltongue. When Voldemort tried to kill Harry, Harry was left with a scar, that could be a symbolization. If you remember in book 5, Harry was jumping around like maniac…. the thought was that Voldemort was happy, Harry could feel that. In a way thatwas Harry being controlled, and again that happens with the dreams. I think that’s a little odd. In the prophecy it says that they are equal.That could mean, again, that Harry is controlled and that he is a horcrux,and also if Voldemort were to do that on purpose (make Harry a horcrux) then even if Harry destroys Voldemort (WAY TO GO HARRY!) a part of Voldemort would still live on(as mentioned in Harry Potter: Horcrux). A part of Voldemort’s soul could be in Harry.( I also think that maybe Voldemort didn’t make seven of them….. maybe he did though.) I will try and come up with more evidence to my theory.
SlytherinsHeir said,
July 15, 2006 at 3:18 pm
I think i should express that i highly doubt harry or his scar is a horcrux. If harry or his scar were made a horcrux the night the Dark Lord killed the potters then why in book 4 did the Dark Lord try to kill harry in the graveyard????? hmmmm. if harry was a horcrux i don’t think the dark lord would destroy another horcrux.
I too often ponder the next horcrux, and even wonder if he might have used something from his childhood besides the diary, either way i think in some way JKR hinted the last horcrux in one of her books. And goodluck to the HP sleuth tht finds out.
Dawn said,
August 1, 2006 at 4:47 am
Yes, harrypotter_lover35,
I too was wondering about the locket they found at 12 Grimauld place while cleaning….it seems too obvious, but still, if RAB is Regulus, then it would seem more likely that it ended up at the Black home. I am inclinded to believe it is Regulus who took slytherin’s locket,. The time frame seems to fit…
hp-freak said,
August 28, 2006 at 11:31 am
I think it’s Regulus Black!!!
steph said,
November 15, 2006 at 1:13 am
I guess this thread is a little dead, but I only found this site recently. =)
I think its unlikely that Harry is a horcrux for a few reasons. First, from what Rowling writes, the making of a horcrux seems to require intention. Voldemort did not intend for the AK curse to backfire on himself, which would seem to be the only reason to make Harry a horcrux. I think the intention also rules out Harry/Harry’s scar from being a horcrux as well. Finally, I agree with SlytherinsHeir in that I don’t think Voldemort would intentionally destroy a horcrux.
I also agree with Mark, that Voldemort may have killed just before he went to see Dumbledore, and used the power to make Godric Gryffindor’s sword into a horcrux. It wouldn’t require any protection/hexes since it was in Dumbledore’s office. Also, Voldemort knew Dumbledore would not give him the teaching post. So why else would Voldemort go to the headmaster’s office?
I haven’t heard ANY theories on what Ravenclaw’s artifact could have been. Any guesses?
Big_Fan_Of_Potter.June24th-95-CanadianGirl said,
December 5, 2006 at 7:36 pm
I have many suggestions:
-Harry Potter and the Horcrux Mystery
-Harry Potter and the Centaur’s Secret
-Harry Potter and Dumbledore’s Will
-Harry Potter and the Wizards Duel
-Harry Potter and the 7th Year at Hogwarts
-Harry Potter and Hogwart’s Secret
-Harry Potter and Rowena RavenClaw’s Tale
That’s all I’ve gotten so far..L8ter Narly Dudes…..
Mitch said,
February 14, 2007 at 9:41 am
I’ve recently read all of the books in order, and I have a theory on a potential horcrux which I’d be happy to hear your opinions on. I figured it had to be a ’safe’ object. Something which ironically would be unknowingly guarded by the good side…
Any reason why it couldn’t be the Sorting Hat?
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n addition to the above - I would like to add that I think Dumbledor was a horcrux. This would explain why Voldermort apparently feared facing him in a duel. It would also make sense of Snape killing him in the 6th book. Perhaps he (Dumbledor) saw the ambush coming and did not attempt to fight it knowing that he must be sacrificed in order to destroy one of Voldermort’s horcruxes. *IF* Dumbledor knew himself to be a horcrux, and *IF* Snape was aware of the plan for Malfoy to make an attempt on Dumbledor’s life, it would mesh neatly with Snape being ok taking the Unbreakable Oath to swear to Narcissa to help Draco complete his mission.
In addition to this I have a theory on Snape…
I don’t think he’s good or bad (or rather on Dumbledor’s side any more than Voldermort’s). I think he plans to usurp them both. He’s already proved that his Occlumency skills are greater than Voldermort’s ability to detect him lying. And therefore it is not unthinkable that he actually possesses greater wizarding skills than Voldermort himself. He’s already proved that he has great skill in creating his own spells (HBP). He’s been able so far to take Dumbledor out (thus destroying potentially one of Voldermorts horcruxes), and as he is probably aware that most of Voldermort’s horcruxes have been found he is now biding his time to wait until the last few are found and destroyed before making his move against Voldermort. Being a Slytherin - and therefore power hungry - it is not unthinkable that he is plotting to kill both of them. Thoughts???
Before someone debunks my idea about Dumbledor being a horcrux on the basis that “why did Voldermort order Draco to kill him then?”… I would say the reasons for this are potentially 2 fold…
Voldermort is angry with Lucius for losing the prophecy. He maybe *expects* Draco to fail. And Draco’s death would punish Lucius for his failure.
On the offchance that Draco succeeds, Voldermort may have calculated that Dumbledor has caused him too much trouble and he needs him out of the way. A bit like cutting off your finger to save your arm
This is all a bit of fun and naturally we’ll all find out the trust soon! But as there are many in this forum who know the books back to front - I wondered if someone might (constructively) pull my above theories apart…
Thanks to all!